I've seen only a couple of episodes but for one - #250561055 added by drtrousersnake at laughable coherent pointless (2024)

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#8-anonid:cc27efe4

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death battle, and it's consequences, have been a disaster for humanity

#39to#8-aleypal

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Ah yea, here's a character that survived x event, we're gonna translate that into the amount of energy it tnt for some reason and because his opponent can't use that much tnt the character wins.

Honestly they get it right sometimes, but the best reasoning they had in a fight was Goku vs Superman 2. When it got not into the power of a character based on some feat or another, but on the storytelling aspect of the character and their function as it relates to their aspect of human nature.

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#9to#8-thecrimsonfist[OP]

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drives me crazy how they pick all the 'peaks' of a character, and then ignore any losses that undermine their cherry picked powerlevel

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I've seen only a couple of episodes but for one anime character's feats, he punched a dude and the shockwave created a windfunnel. They did the math to see how much TNT it would take to make enough air pressure to create a windfunnel of X height and said his punch must have the force
of that much TNT. The guy was also not in his prime and said the enemy who survived 100 of his punches would've went down in 5 from his prime so the windfunnel punch of his prime must be 20x stronger. I can could probably easily survive 20 punches from someone who has a max bench of 100lbs but would probably die if someone that could bench 2000lbs hit me once.

Then in the same episode the other Guy had a feat where he blows up a small island at a distance with just the air pressure of his punch and then said his punch had as much force as the amount of TNT
needed to blow up a small island rather than figuring out how much TNT
would be needed to create enough air pressure that it could tear apart a small island like they did with the first guy.

Like if you are gonna factor in artistic flashy poop for power scaling sure, but at least have the logic be consistent within the same episode.

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ight. speaking as a former bouncer and boxer;

you are not as strong as your infinity super punch, you're as strong as your average punch

you're not as fast as the light speed you dodged once, you're as fast as the bullet you were too slow to avoid

you're not as tough as the strongest punch you tanked, you're as tough as the number of punches it takes to put you down

#45to#10-zhelezo

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Oh god, the screwing “light speed” poop pisses me off. screw Death Battle for introducing it. screw everyone else who sees an energy based attack and assumes that makes it light speed.

“Uh, in this scene we see batman dodge the shot from a laser pistol, so he’s a lightspeed level fighter.”

I’ve seen that poop so often it’s infuriating.

I’ve seen it so often I made a joke Death Battle. Who wins, Batman vs Superman in a fist fight. No tools, or prep. But batman uses his most impressive feats to establish his power level, and Supes uses his least impressive feats.

#55to#45-anonid:aedc687b

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That is my biggest gripe and partially aimed at authors/illustrators too.
Someone dodges a shot and even when it could be said to be aim dodging, it gets put as legit dodging when that wouldn't fit the rest of the story.
Same with "lasers", "lightning" or "beams". Authors have no idea what speed of sound, lightning or light even mean for a story or get told by publishers to replace a gun with a laser or beam gun.

#71to#55-zhelezo

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Thats why the joke about flash villains being useless against him is so goddamn funny. A freeze ray isn't going to do anything if you can outrun the trigger pull.

Also, if you can SEE THE GODDAMN SHOT MOVING, IT'S NOT LIGHTSPEED.

Blasters in star wars, are NOT light speed. Lasers in every movie ever are not lightspeed.

The planetary lap band death star laser in Star Wars 7 was not lightspeed either. It was actually Lightspeed X100 and then slowed to sub light speed for... intimidation purposes. I'm not kidding, it's canon.

#73to#71-anonid:0414d8a3

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The laser was built to slow down for intimidation?
Imagine getting asked to build such a thing.

#74to#73-zhelezo

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Worse, the laser only slowed down as it NEARED ITS TARGET.

And yeah, disney canon established that the 1st order actually asked the engineers to design it to be that big slow red beam at the end, just so that it can look scary as poop.

ALSO. And I can't stress this enough, the RANGE ON THE screwING GUN IS HALF THE UNIVERSE.

Someone was angrily jerking off to a "Star wars beats 40k" thread on 4chan 100% when they wrote that.

#14to#10-ossumsox

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That and VS. Battle both do that so much and it's insane. It's got Aang classified as having up to 1% the speed of light because they writers decided lightning would be cool so now he's faster than lightning despite nothing else in the show remotely showing that. I remember someone trying to convince me that Aang would beat Kakashi in a 1v1 and used that feat as proof he's faster

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Even if we give Aang that feat, Kakashi is famous for his Raikiri jutsu, specifically for cutting lightning with it. A technique that was literally too fast for himself to keep up with without the Sharingan.

Even if that makes them even in terms of speed, Aang has nothing in his arsenal that would force Kakashi to react at that speed, whereas that is Kakashi's signature move.

If Aang has any chance to win that fight, it would be entirely due to the overwhelming and seemingly endless power of the Avatar state. Not because Kakashi would be unable to counter it, but because Kakashi's greatest weakness has always been the fact that his techniques deplete his chakra very quickly. Ultimately, the fight would come down to whether or not Aang enters the Avatar state and whether or not Kakashi is able to outlast the Avatar state.

Also, Aang literally got hit by lightning and died in the finale of book 2 because he lacked situational awareness. My american Kakashi can easily exploit that to whip up an ambush/strat that'd fry the little bald bastard in a handful of seconds.

#69to#48-anonid:3eebd2cc

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create shadow clone > go underground and move behind Aang > shadow clone uses "talk no jutsu" on Aang > real kakashi uses chidori from Aang's blindspot while the clone is talking to him

#72to#69-anonid:4c76b0d3

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Aang learned the vibration technique that Toph uses to see and uses it to counter a blindspot attack from the firelord.

The deception may help prevent Aang from detecting Kakashi, but if they're both on their guard, it's not actually that simple. Also, unless Kakashi's burrowing somehow negates earthbending, he does not want to be caught underground when fighting a proficient earthbender.

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kakashi is a trained killer with a lot of charisma while aang is naive so I think it would be pretty easy for Kakashi to get aang to drop his guard without even relying on genjutsu (I dropped the naruto manga when Naruto had a mission to check if armadillos had penises so I don't really know kakashi's ceiling). Unlike Toph, Aang doesn't passively earthbend to see. The technique kakashi used to grab sasuke in the first arc works by turning the ground into sand. Sand dampens sesmic sense to the point where Toph was complaining that the desert made it so she couldn't really "see" that far so I'd imagine aang would face similar difficulties with sand being harder for non-specialists to bend.

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#22to#14-shamefulpost

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It also pairs characters who don't work on the same logic and creates a headache of a situation. Is chakra the same as bending in this situation? It does manipulate elemental natures. Or is bending just a form of manipulating chakra natures. Is the avatar state the same as sage mode? All questions that need to be answered to know if the sharingan would work or if aang can turn off chakra points.

#19to#14-anonid:cc27efe4

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>entire show is character on a long voyager
>they dodge lightning once
>they continue their journey on foot, despite it being near instant at even 1% the speed of light

#11to#10-thecrimsonfist[OP]

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Deathbattle doesn't understand averages

#28to#11-heroicvenom

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Feels like a data battle from kh
Sure the bosses could do something like those feats in story mode but their data counterparts just record their peak abilities and thus become more powerful than what the original is capable of doing

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they can't attach "bigger number" to is in a desperate bid to appear objectively correct about something nearly impossible quantify

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